On the Russian side, “we first interrogate the soldiers, then we kill them” – Le Monde

Police officers try to identify civilians killed in Boutcha (Ukraine), near kyiv, on April 6, 2022. RODRIGO ABD / AP The German intelligence services (BND) have collected information establishing the involvement of Russian soldiers in the abuses committed against civilians in Boutcha, north-west of kyiv, and in other surrounding municipalities. This is what Der Spiegel asserts, Thursday April 7, in an article which indicates that part of this information was transmitted, Wednesday, to German parliamentarians. Contradicting the official Russian version, according to which these atrocities were staged, or that they were the work of Ukrainian “Nazis”, according to another version readily taken up on social networks in Russia or abroad, this information is based on two types of sources: satellite images and radio conversations between Russian soldiers. Read also: Article reserved for our subscribers Ukrainian forces accused of abuses against Russian soldiers In one of the exchanges intercepted by the BND, a soldier explains to one of his comrades that he and his colleagues shot dead a person in bike. In another conversation, a man says: “First we interrogate the soldiers, then we shoot them. While some exchanges may correspond to scenes discovered in Boutcha after the recapture of the city by Ukrainian forces on April 2, after more than a month of occupation by Russian troops, Der Spiegel indicates however that the communications recorded “more generally relate to the region north of kyiv, even if they have obvious parallels with the Boutcha murders”. Deployed near kyiv Another interesting detail: according to the weekly, the messages intercepted by the German intelligence services would also indicate that Russian mercenaries from the Wagner Group – reputedly close to the Kremlin and suspected of abuses in Syria, Libya, the Central African Republic or in Mali – took a “determining part in the atrocities committed”. The presence of these paramilitaries in Ukraine had already been mentioned by the British Ministry of Defence, which on March 28 claimed on Twitter that more than 1,000 Wagner Group fighters were about to be sent to the east. from the country. According to Der Spiegel, members of this paramilitary group were also deployed around kyiv. “The explanations given by Russia, according to which it would be a staged (…), are not defensible in our eyes”, Steffen Hebestreit, spokesperson for the German government Finally, the information collected by the BND would prove that “the atrocities perpetrated against civilians in Boutcha were neither the result of chance, nor the act of individual soldiers who had escaped all control”, reports the German weekly. “On the contrary, according to sources familiar with the recorded conversations, they show that the soldiers were talking about the atrocities as if they were simply discussing their daily life,” he adds. You have 20.69% of this article left to read. The following is for subscribers only.

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