DIRECT. LR debate: civilized exchanges, but also tensions and tensions – Linternaute.com

DEBATE LR. A debate to bring people together or to mark their difference? Follow the great LR debate live, organized this Monday, November 8, by LCI, RTL and Le Figaro.

22:54 – Xavier Bertrand wants to convince the mayors to build prisons

Xavier Bertrand wants to convince the mayors of the need to install prisons in their town. To do so, he wishes to considerably increase the State remuneration paid in exchange for the construction of penitentiary centers on their soil.

22:46 – The subject of security brings the candidates together

Eric Ciotti agrees with Michel Barnier on the need to introduce minimum sentences, but goes further, marking his difference with a simplifying sentence: “You touch a police officer, the same evening you sleep in prison”, he said , pointing to the “laxity” of the current government and the ministers of justice under the mandates of François Hollande and Emmanuel Macron. All the candidates want more prison places in France. Valérie Pécresse wishes to act on “judicial deadlines and the deadline for sentences”. “I propose closed centers for adults”, and put an end to the reflex of “electronic bracelets for dealers who stay in their neighborhoods”. Philippe Juvin wants “all towns with more than 10,000 inhabitants” to have an armed municipal police force and video surveillance “.

22:37 – Michel Barnier expresses his annoyance

“You pretend not to understand my proposals on the moratorium,” said Michel Barnier, who targets Valérie Pécresse and Xavier Bertrand. “Valérie, you who regularly quote Nicolas Sarkozy, I invite you to get closer to him, he had approved in 2010 my idea of ​​a moratorium on immigration. On the subject, I made proposals, probably well before you and in a more comprehensive way, ”he says.

22:34 – Valérie Pécresse wants measures on the right of asylum

“The right was doing much better” in terms of immigration, says Valérie Pécresse, who wants “the expulsion of illegal immigrants must be an absolute priority”. The president of the Ile de France claims a specificity: asylum requests will have to be made at the border. “We have to take everything back in hand,” she said. Asylum is a way of circumventing French law.

22:29 – Xavier Bertrand speaks on the tensions with Algeria

Xavier Bertrand changes the subject to talk about the “showdown” engaged with Algeria. “Algeria is preventing us from flying over its territory, even though our aviation needs to go to Mali”, he regrets, indicating that he is ready to break the 1968 agreement between France and Algeria .

22:24 – Eric Ciotti wants to establish the national preference

Very incisive on the subject of immigration, Eric Ciotti believes that it is necessary to establish drastic conditions of immigration control. He said he wanted to set up a migration point permit, a deposit system to ensure a sufficient level of resources for each immigrant, “as is the case in Australia”. “We are at a crossroads in history. Commentators have prevented us from looking at reality,” he said earlier. “We must put an end to political correctness”.

22:18 – Moment of tension between Michel Barnier and Valéire Pécresse on immigration

Michel Barnier wants European coordination and a “negotiation that will not be easy between the countries of emigration and us”, presenting his desire to establish a moratorium on immigration. “Zero immigration is impossible,” says Valérie Pécresse. “I never said zero immigration”, corrects Michel Barnier annoyed: “You understood that, but it is not that”. Response from the president of Île-de-France: “I think people understood it like that, moratorium means we stop everything”, she said, indicating that for her, this measure is not Claire.

22:11 – The subject of immigration addressed by the candidates

Is France facing a big replacement? On this question launched by journalists, Eric Ciotti believes that the expression does not shock him. Valérie Pécresse indicates that this is a biased way of conducting this debate, speaking all the same of “the dislocation of France if immigration is not controlled”. Xavier Bertrand, after reviewing the way it was previously cut, allows himself a long speech on the subject, presenting some measures: referendum presented to the French, measures to reduce migratory flows. “The big replacement will not take place,” said the president of the Hauts-de-France region.

22:04 – Xavier Bertrand put back in his place by Ruth ElKrief

Big moment of tension on the set of LCI: Xavier Bertrand demands to speak on purchasing power to expose one of his proposals. But the LCI journalist does not hear it that way, asking him to refrain from returning to a subject already discussed at the beginning of the show. Xavier Bertrand refuses and continues his remarks, which leads to an arm wrestling won by the journalist: “No, no and no! We are directing the thread of the show, we are moving on to another subject”, she launches. showing real anger.

21:50 – Xavier Bertrand insists on nuclear power, a priority for him

The president of Île-de-France also indicates that he wants the construction of new EPRs over 10 years. “Today nuclear is 72% of electrical energy, I will not reduce the share of nuclear to 50%”, he said to mark his difference in the energy mix. “I want more nuclear power and less renewables,” he says, saying he is fiercely opposed to the development of wind turbines. Valérie Pécresse abounds, but wants us to walk “on two feet to fight against climate change”. “We will need hydrogen, solar, wind,” she said.

9:43 pm – Philippe Juvin: “Everything is played from school”

“I want a big plan to renovate the school”, says Philippe Juvin, insisting that according to him “there is a lack of training at school and professional”. “There is a direct link between economic impoverishment and intellectual impoverishment, if we do not train well, we no longer have a researcher. A child who does not know how to count in college will never be a researcher.”

21:37 – Michel Barnier wants a drop in employers’ charges

Michel Barnier returns to the proposals made so far on social and employer contributions, which he also intends to reduce. Michel Barnier does not give precise figures either on the debt reduction plan or on how to give companies room for maneuver, which earned him a fairly marked remark from Valérie Pécresse, who judges that it is not “responsible”. Michel Barnier responds to his rival with a point: “We need a plan to reduce social fraud. We are going to propose to modify all vital cards,” said Michel Barnier. Xavier Bertrand approves.

21:31 – Xavier Bertrand wants a super bonus for employees

Xavier Bertrand hangs on with David Pujadas. The first wants to establish a bonus, a supplement of income for all French people touching less than 2000 euros, the second points out to him that it is a way of establishing an “all powerful state, which replaces the productive system”. “Do you want to reduce inequalities? I do,” he said, indicating that he will defend “the value of work” during his five-year term. “Obviously, I will bring together all the social partners, because wages must increase”, he said adding: “We will also have to completely change our system of participation and profit-sharing so that we earn more when in the company “.

21:27 – Valérie Pécresse wants to mark her difference

The president of Ile de France is offensive, responding to some innuendo of her rivals on her program. She ensures that her project is “stronger” than that of Xavier Bertrand and more “reasonable” than that of Eric Ciotti. “I too want work to pay more than assistance. Today, we write checks, Macron is the president of checks.” And to propose a reform: “I want employees to be able to own 10% of their business if it is listed on the stock market”

9:15 p.m. – Small hitch between Michel Barnier and Valérie Pécresse

Between the two former ministers, the tone rises a little: Michel Barnier criticizes his rival for making untenable promises on the number of civil servant posts to decrease. Valérie Pécresse is also attacked by Philippe Juvin who points to the fragility of the hospital sector. “We must draw a straight path, the French must know where we are making the necessary savings. If we do not say it now, we will not do it once in the responsibilities”.

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The first of the four debates between the candidates for the LR nomination is therefore to be followed on LCI. The show starts at 8:40 p.m. and is expected to run for around two hours. It is hosted by the two star presenters of the TF1 group’s continuous news channel, Ruth Elkrief and David Pujadas.

Between the restricted timing and the necessary respect for a fair speaking time (and minimum to unfold his ideas), impossible to address all the themes inherent in a presidential campaign. Thus, four major subjects will be addressed in turn by the five candidates: purchasing power, immigration, security and international affairs. Each theme will be discussed for twenty minutes. Each candidate will therefore have four minutes to speak.

A draw has been made to determine who will speak first on each question, who will follow and who will bring up the rear. The chance made that Eric Ciotti will open the ball, before Philippe Juvin does not speak, followed by Michel Barnier and Valérie Pécresse, Xavier Bertrand closing the first round of the discussions.

After this first debate, Michel Barnier, Xavier Bertrand, Eric Ciotti, Philippe Juvin and Valérie Pécresse will debate again three times: Sunday November 14 on BFMTV / RMC at 8:45 p.m., Sunday November 21 on CNews / Europe 1 and Tuesday 30 November on France 2 / France Inter at 9:05 p.m.

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