Pope: “Some wanted me dead, they were already preparing the Conclave”

I am “still alive. Although some wanted me dead. I know that there have even been meetings between prelates, who thought the Pope was more serious than what was said”. The Pope returned to his health after colon surgery in July. The speech on his health, piqued by the conversation with the Jesuits of Bratislava during the recent apostolic journey and made known today by the director of Civiltà Cattolica, Father Antonio Spadaro, was an opportunity for the Pontiff to remove a few pebbles from his shoe: “They were preparing the conclave. Patience. Thank God, I’m fine. Having that surgery was a decision I didn’t want to make: it was a nurse who convinced me. Nurses sometimes understand the situation more than doctors because they are in direct contact with patients. ” The Pope then speaks of the attacks that are directed at him, also addressing the question linked to the crackdown he operated on the Latin Mass and which was read by some as a disavowal of what was decided by his predecessor Ratzinger. He also trusts the Slovak Jesuits to lose patience in the face of attacks without dialogue. “I personally – says the Pontiff speaking with the Jesuits of Bratislava in the dialogue made known today by the director of Civiltà Cattolica, Father Antonio Spadaro – can deserve attacks and insults because I am a sinner, but the Church does not deserve this: it is the work of the devil. I have also told some of them. Yes, there are also clerics who make bad comments about me. lack of patience, especially when they make judgments without entering into a real dialogue. There I can do nothing. I still go on without entering their world of ideas and fantasies. I do not want to enter it and for this I prefer to preach, preach … they accused of not speaking of holiness. They say that I always speak of the social and that I am a communist. Yet I wrote an entire Apostolic Exhortation on holiness, the Gaudete et exsultate “. Then the clarification on the Latin Masses: “Now I hope that with the decision to stop the automatism of the ancient rite we can return to the true intentions of Benedict XVI and John Paul II. My decision is the result of a consultation with all bishops of the world made last year. From now on, those who want to celebrate with the vetus ordo must ask permission from Rome as is done with biritualism. But there are young people who after a month of ordination go to the bishop to ask for it. phenomenon that indicates that we are going backwards “. Then the clarifying anecdote:” A cardinal told me that two newly ordained priests went to him asking to study Latin to celebrate well. He, who has a sense of humor, replied: “But there are so many Hispanics in the diocese! Study Spanish to be able to preach. Then when you have studied Spanish, come back to me and I will tell you how many Vietnamese there are in the diocese, and I will ask you to study Vietnamese. Then, when you have imp plowed the Vietnamese, I will give you permission to study Latin too ‘. So he made them ‘land’, he brought them back to earth. I go on, not because I want to make a revolution. I do what I feel I have to do. It takes a lot of patience, prayer and a lot of charity “. As for divorced and remarried people and homosexuals, the Pontiff invites them to abandon rigidity and counterproductive clerical attitudes.” I think of the work that has been done, Father Spadaro was present, – says Bergoglio in the conversation given. noted today by the director of La Civiltà Cattolica – at the Synod on the family to make it clear that couples in second union are not already condemned to hell. It scares us to accompany people with sexual diversity. We are afraid of the intersections of the paths that Paul VI spoke of. This is the evil of this moment. To seek the way in rigidity and in clericalism, which are two perversions “.” Today – Bergoglio observes – I believe that the Lord is asking the Society to be free, with prayer and discernment. It is a fascinating era, of a beautiful charm, even if it were that of the cross: beautiful to carry on the freedom of the Gospel. Freedom! You can experience this going back in your community, in your Province, in the Society. We need to be careful and be vigilant. Mine is not a praise to imprudence, but I want to point out that going back is not the right way. It is, however, to move forward in discernment and obedience “. The ideology of ‘gender’ is” dangerous “but this has nothing to do with the” real life “of each person and homosexual couples must be accompanied. One of those present recalled that the Pope often talks about ideological colonizations which are diabolical. He refers, among others, to that of ‘gender’. “Ideology always has a diabolical charm, as you say, because it is not embodied . Right now we live a civilization of ideologies, this is true. We have to unmask them at the roots. The ideology of ‘gender’ you speak of is dangerous, yes – Bergoglio replies in the dialogue with the Jesuits made known today by the director of Civiltà Cattolica, Father Antonio Spadaro -. As I understand it, it is so because it is abstract with respect to the concrete life of a person, as if a person could decide abstractly at will whether and when to be a man or a woman. For me, abstraction is always a problem. “” This – he warns – has nothing to do with the homosexual question, however. If there is a homosexual couple, we can do pastoral care with them, go forward in the encounter with Christ. When I speak of ideology, I speak of the idea, of the abstraction for which everything is possible, not of the concrete life of people and their real situation “.